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Bonjour à tous,
Veuillez trouver la lettre d 'informations de l'APDRA n°12.
Bonne lecture.
Isabelle Hanquiez
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Objet: Programme de poissons du NEPAD et de la FAO (NFFP): Les informations concernant deux ateliers
Bonjour à tous,
Suite à la message du 11 Septembre fournir un bref compte rendu de l'évolution du programme du NEPAD poisson et de la FAO, s'il vous plaît trouver ci-joint des renseignements sur deux des événements à venir qui y sont mentionnées, notamment:
• Un atelier sur l'approche écosystémique des pêches et à l'aquaculture (EAF / EAA) en Afrique: Etat, les leçons apprises et les possibilités futures, 29-31 Octobre 2012 (annonce en anglais et en français avec un prospectus ci-joint en anglais), et
• Un atelier régional sur le changement climatique, les catastrophes et les crises de la pêche et de l'aquaculture en Afrique occidentale et centrale, 1-2 Novembre 2012 (annonces en anglais et en français avec un prospectus ci-joint en anglais).
Les ateliers offriront des possibilités pour la diffusion d'expériences, l'identification des meilleures pratiques, la coordination des initiatives, la discussion des stratégies pour les activités futures relatives au NFFP et échange de vues sur les propositions passées et en cours pour les futures activités de collaboration.
Certains d'entre vous ont reçu cette information par d'autres moyens et d'excuses donc pour tout affichage croisée.
Pour plus d'informations sur les événements, s'il vous plaît contacter soit
Mme Florence Poulain (pour le DRM & CCA atelier): florence.poulain(a)fao.org<mailto:florence.poulain@fao.org>
Mme Merete Tandstad (pour l'atelier AEP & EAA): merete.tandstad(a)fao.org<mailto:merete.tandstad@fao.org>
ou
Peter Shivute: peters(a)nepad.org<mailto:peters@nepad.org> ou Gunilla Greig: gunilla.greig(a)fao.org<mailto:gunilla.greig@fao.org> / gunillag(a)nepad.org<mailto:gunillag@nepad.org>
S'il vous plaît faites le moi savoir si vous ne souhaitez pas être inclus dans cette liste de diffusion NFFP, ou si vous voulez quelqu'un pour être ajouté.
Cordialement,
Gunilla Greig
Coordonnateur du Programme - Programme de poissons du NEPAD et de la FAO (NFFP)
La mise en œuvre du programme et de la coordination
NEPAD Agence de planification et de coordination
e-mail: GunillaG(a)nepad.org<mailto:GunillaG@nepad.org> | site web: www.nepad.org | t: +27 11 075 5021 | c: +27 71 757 6200
From: sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces(a)lists.stir.ac.uk [mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk] On Behalf Of William Leschen
Sent: 10 October 2012 17:07
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Subject: [Sarnissa] NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme (NFFP): Information regarding two workshops
Subject: NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme (NFFP): Information regarding two workshops
Dear all,
Further to the message of 11 September providing a brief account of developments within the NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme, please find attached information on two of the forthcoming events mentioned therein, namely:
• A Workshop on the Ecosystem Approach to Fisheries and to Aquaculture (EAF/EAA) in Africa: Status, lessons learned and future opportunities, 29-31 October 2012 (announcement in English and French along with a prospectus in English attached), and
• A Regional Workshop on Climate change, Disasters and Crises in the Fisheries and Aquaculture Sector in West and Central Africa, 1-2 November 2012 (announcements in English and French along with a prospectus in English attached).
The Workshops will provide opportunities for dissemination of experiences, identification of best practices, co-ordination of initiatives, discussion of strategies for future activities pertaining to the NFFP and exchange of views regarding past and ongoing proposals for future collaborative activities.
Some of you will have received this information through other means and so apologies for any cross-postings.
For more information on the events, please contact either
Ms. Florence Poulain (for the DRM & CCA workshop): florence.poulain(a)fao.org<mailto:florence.poulain@fao.org>
Ms. Merete Tandstad (for the EAF & EAA workshop): merete.tandstad(a)fao.org<mailto:merete.tandstad@fao.org>
or
Peter Shivute: peters(a)nepad.org<mailto:peters@nepad.org> or Gunilla Greig: gunilla.greig(a)fao.org<mailto:gunilla.greig@fao.org> / gunillag(a)nepad.org<mailto:gunillag@nepad.org>
Please also let me know if you do not wish to be included in this NFFP mailing list, or if you would like somebody to be added.
Best regards,
Gunilla Greig
Programme Co-ordinator – NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme (NFFP)
Programme Implementation and Coordination Directorate
NEPAD Planning and Coordinating Agency
email: GunillaG(a)nepad.org<mailto:GunillaG@nepad.org> | website: www.nepad.org<http://www.nepad.org/> | t: +27 11 075 5021| c: +27 71 757 6200
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The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland,
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Chers Partenaires,
Les différents ateliers interessent la Coordination Régionale de la
Société Civile du Bassin du Niger (CRU) composée de neuf(9)
coordinations nationales des Usagers(CNU) autour du bassin du fleuve
niger?
Je vous envoie la note de présentation de la Coordination Régionale
et vous y trouverez toutes les adresses des neuf(9) pays et de leurs
Présidents (Tél, Email.....).
Je souhaite que nous participions aux deux(2) ateliers, car le fleuve
Niger est très active dans la pêche. Le Delta intérieur du Niger au
Mali, seul produit plus de 100.000 tonnes par an, il est la 3é plus
grand zone Humide du Monde. D'où l'importance de Sarnissa pour nous et
du ricochet participer à ces deux (2) ateliers.
Merci d'avance pour compréhension.
NOURADINE ZAKARIA TOURE
PRESSSIDENT CRU
BUREAU:(00223) 20 28 42 21 / 20 28 42 23
PORTABLE:(00223) 76 49 07 02 / 66 79 57 40
SKYPE : nouradhine
BLOGS : Nouradine Zakaria TOURE
BAMAKO MALI
2012/10/11, nouradine zakaria toure <nouradhine(a)yahoo.fr>:
>
>
>
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> De : William Leschen <william.leschen(a)stir.ac.uk>
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> Envoyé le : Mercredi 10 octobre 2012 17h52
> Objet : [Sarnissa] Programme de poissons du NEPAD et de la FAO (NFFP): Les
> informations concernant deux ateliers
>
>
> Objet: Programmede poissons du NEPAD et de la FAO (NFFP): Les informations
> concernant deux ateliers
>
> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Suite à la message du 11 Septembre fournir un bref compte rendu de
> l'évolution du programme du NEPAD poisson et de la FAO, s'il vous plaît
> trouver ci-joint des renseignements sur deux des événements à venir qui y
> sont mentionnées, notamment:
>
> • Un atelier sur l'approche écosystémique des pêches et à l'aquaculture (EAF
> / EAA) en Afrique: Etat, les leçons apprises et les possibilités futures,
> 29-31 Octobre 2012 (annonce en anglais et en français avec un prospectus
> ci-joint en anglais), et
> • Un atelier régional sur le changement climatique, les catastrophes et les
> crises de la pêche et de l'aquaculture en Afrique occidentale et centrale,
> 1-2 Novembre 2012 (annonces en anglais et en français avec un prospectus
> ci-joint en anglais).
> Les ateliers offriront des possibilités pour la diffusion d'expériences,
> l'identification des meilleures pratiques, la coordination des initiatives,
> la discussion des stratégies pour les activités futures relatives au NFFP et
> échange de vues sur les propositions passées et en cours pour les futures
> activités de collaboration.
>
> Certains d'entre vous ont reçu cette information par d'autres moyens et
> d'excuses donc pour tout affichage croisée.
> Pour plus d'informations sur les événements, s'il vous plaît contacter soit
> Mme Florence Poulain (pour le DRM & CCA atelier): florence.poulain(a)fao.org
> Mme Merete Tandstad (pour l'atelier AEP & EAA): merete.tandstad(a)fao.org
> ou
> Peter Shivute: peters(a)nepad.org ou Gunilla Greig: gunilla.greig(a)fao.org /
> gunillag(a)nepad.org
> S'il vous plaît faites le moi savoir si vous ne souhaitez pas être inclus
> dans cette liste de diffusion NFFP, ou si vous voulez quelqu'un pour être
> ajouté.
> Cordialement,
> Gunilla Greig
> Coordonnateur du Programme - Programme de poissons du NEPAD et de la FAO
> (NFFP)
> La mise en œuvre du programme et de la coordination
> NEPAD Agence de planification et de coordination
> e-mail: GunillaG(a)nepad.org | site web: www.nepad.org | t: +27 11 075 5021 |
> c: +27 71 757 6200
>
> From:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk
> [mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
> William Leschen
> Sent: 10 October 2012 17:07
> To: sarnissa-african-aquaculture Mailing List
> Subject: [Sarnissa] NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme (NFFP): Information regarding
> two workshops
>
>
>
>
> Subject: NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme (NFFP): Information regarding two
> workshops
>
> Dear all,
>
> Further to the message of 11 September providing a brief account of
> developments within the NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme, please find attached
> information on two of the forthcoming events mentioned therein, namely:
>
> · A Workshop on the Ecosystem Approach to Fisheries and to
> Aquaculture (EAF/EAA) in Africa: Status, lessons learned and future
> opportunities, 29-31 October 2012 (announcement in English and French along
> with a prospectus in English attached), and
> · A Regional Workshop on Climate change, Disasters and Crises in the
> Fisheries and Aquaculture Sector in West and Central Africa, 1-2 November
> 2012 (announcements in English and French along with a prospectus in English
> attached).
> The Workshops will provide opportunities for dissemination of experiences,
> identification of best practices, co-ordination of initiatives, discussion
> of strategies for future activities pertaining to the NFFP and exchange of
> views regarding past and ongoing proposals for future collaborative
> activities.
>
> Some of you will have received this information through other means and so
> apologies for any cross-postings.
> For more information on the events, please contact either
> Ms. Florence Poulain (for the DRM & CCA workshop): florence.poulain(a)fao.org
> Ms. Merete Tandstad (for the EAF & EAA workshop): merete.tandstad(a)fao.org
> or
> Peter Shivute: peters(a)nepad.orgor Gunilla Greig: gunilla.greig(a)fao.org/
> gunillag(a)nepad.org
> Please also let me know if you do not wish to be included in this NFFP
> mailing list, or if you would like somebody to be added.
> Best regards,
> Gunilla Greig
> Programme Co-ordinator – NEPAD-FAO Fish Programme (NFFP)
> Programme Implementation and Coordination Directorate
> NEPAD Planning and Coordinating Agency
> email: GunillaG(a)nepad.org | website: www.nepad.org | t: +27 11 075 5021| c:
> +27 71 757 6200
>
> ________________________________
>
> The University of Stirling is ranked in the top 50 in the world in The Times
> Higher Education 100 Under 50 table, which ranks the world's best 100
> universities under 50 years old.
> The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC
> 011159.
>
> ________________________________
>
> The University of Stirling is ranked in the top 50 in the world in The Times
> Higher Education 100 Under 50 table, which ranks the world's best 100
> universities under 50 years old. The University of Stirling is a charity
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Chers collègues,
Veuillez trouver ci-joint le rapport de la première mission du panel d'experts environnemental et social de l'Autorité du Bassin du Niger (ABN) et de la Banque Mondiale (BM) portant sur le barrage de Kandadji.
Cordialement,
Jérôme KOUNDOUNO
Dialogue régional sur les grandes infrastructures hydrauliques en Afrique de l'Ouest
Regional dialogue on large water infrastructures in West Africa
www.dialoguebarrages.net<www.dialoguebarrages.org%20>
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Bonjour,
J'ai l'honneur de partager avec vous cet important document de planification sur le bassin du Sourou élaboré par la Global Water Initiative Mali.
Il s'agit entre autre du Schéma Directeur d'Aménagement et de Gestion des ressources en Eau du Sourou (portion nationale du Mali) validé le 04 février 2012 en atelier National à Bamako.
Merci et Bonne exploitation.
Bamadou CESSOUMA
Chargé de Projet UICN-Mali
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P Faites un geste pour la Planète, avant d'imprimer cet e-mail, réfléchissez à l'impact sur l'environnement, merci !
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Le 04/10/2012 08:08, James Miller a écrit :
à tous,
Un certain nombre de critères et de conditions sont nécessaires pour
porduire des poissons, et beaucoup de choses ont été essayées en
Afrique. Grâce à ces années d'expérience et des nombreuses leçons
apprises, le vieil adage est vrai: «faire simple », en particulier
pendant l'apprentissage du travail.
Je suis allé en Namibie avec la FAO pour la pisciculture et je sais que
vous avez potentiel.
Mais pour les nouveaux venus dans ce travail, il est préférable de
commencer petit avec
systèmes de faible intensité et faible investissement, tels que
l'élevage de poissons dans
les étangs, les cages ou des réservoirs, comme cela se fait au Nigeria.
Il est toujours préférable d'investir dans un voyage pour visiter les
fermes qui ont réussi et apprendre des erreurs des autres. i
Les systèmes intensifs en eaux recyclés nécessitent une gestion
qualifiée 24 heures par jour, et ce n'est pas
pour les nouveaux arrivants dans le secteur. Quelques-uns des meilleurs
pisciculteurs du Nigeria ont voyagé en Europe pour visiter des fermes de
poissons aux Pays-Bas et les
Royaume-Uni. Maintenant, il y a un certain nombre de fermes piscicoles
qui ont réussi à visiter en
Afrique, au Nigeria, au Ghana, en Ouganda, au Kenya, en Zambie, etc Vous
pourriez
envisager de visiter certains de ces pisciculteurs et réorienter vos efforts
sur la base des leçons apprises
> Everyone,
>
> A number of criteria and conditions are required for developing fish
> farming and many have been tried in Africa. From the years of
> experience and many lessons learnt, the old saying holds true, "Keep
> it simple", especially while learning the business.
>
> I have been to Namibia with FAO for fish farming and know you have
> potential there.
>
> But for new comers to this business, it is best to start small with
> systems of low intensity and low investment, such as rearing fish in
> ponds, cages or tanks, as done in Nigeria.
>
> It is always best to invest in some travel to visit successful fish
> farms and learn from the mistakes of others. Intensive recirculating
> systems require highly trained management 24 hours a day, and are not
> for new comers to the industry. A few of the best best fish farmers
> in Nigeria travelled to Europe to visit fish farms in Holland and the
> UK. Now there are a number of successful fish farms to visit in
> Africa in Nigeria, Ghana, Uganda, Kenya, Zambia, etc. You might
> consider visiting some of these farmers and redirecting your efforts
> based on their lessons learnt.
>
> Good luck with your endeavour.
>
> Jim Miller
>
>
> On 10/3/12, mirera David<dimirera(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hallo Nick,
>>
>> I concur with your sentiments on the response to Stephanus.
>>
>> Some times we have made aquaculture interventions complicated and expensive
>> through well engineered designs that can not bring out any profitability.
>> Its of good practice that the consultants show what they have done and is
>> working before being give intensive and highly demanding aquaculture
>> assignments like those which may end up useless in the long run.
>>
>> However sometimes investors and farmers get corned in the process of
>> identifying the right people to work with! So how this could be addressed is
>> an issue and possibly why SARNISSA is in existence.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mirera H. O. David
>> Research Officer
>> Kenya Marine and Fisheries Research Institute (KMFRI)
>> P. O. Box 81651-80100
>> Mombasa-Kenya
>> office email:dmirera@kmfri.co.ke
>> Telephone: +254 -020-8021560/1
>> Fax: +254 - 020-2353226
>> Alternate contact
>> P.O. Box 98422-80100, Mombasa-Kenya
>> Mobile:+254-722-646270
>> Email:dimirera@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Nick James<nickjames(a)intekom.co.za>
>> To:sarnissa-african-aquaculture@lists.stir.ac.uk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 6:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Stephanus
>>
>> I am intrigued to know the aquaculture credentials
>> of the "South African Engineering company" that did the design of your
>> project.
>> Did they show you a working model of their design that was fully
>> operational? If they did not, were they able to give you referral to an
>> overseas or inter-African example of where their design parameters were
>> working?
>>
>> I ask because SA is getting a reputation for
>> high-tech system designs that simply do not lead to profitably operational
>> fish
>> farms.
>>
>> A 500 tonne/pa. tilapia farm is considerable in
>> terms of production and infrastructure requirements...BUT it is the way that
>> it
>> is done that will make the difference between yet another white
>> elephant...and a viable aquaculture unit. We are getting a little tired of
>> these
>> "engineer-designed" set-ups designed by people who have never kept a fish
>> alive in their lives, as they are giving RAS aquaculture in Africa a bad
>> name.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> Nicholas P E James
>> Rivendell Hatchery
>> PO Box
>> 6146
>> Grahamstown
>> 6141 South Africa
>> Cell 082 575 9781
>>
>> emailnickjames(a)intekom.co.za
>> WEBSITEwww.rivendellhatchery.co.za
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Dear William,
>>>
>>> Allow me to take this opportunity to
>> introduce my selves. I am Benedictus Stephanus from Namibia. We are
>> battling
>> to get an Fresh water Fish farm off the ground at the Naute Dam for the
>> last
>> 4years. Of the challenges we have are more of technical support base. Thus
>> we
>> are in need of a technical partner which could take care of the technical
>>
>> requirements of the project.
>>> We look forward towards the valuable
>> support from the forum at large.
>>> Kindly,
>>>
>>> Benedictus
>> Stephanus
>>> Executive Chairman
>>> Naute Aqua Fish Farms cc
>>> Mobil: +265 856
>> 095 352
>>> Email:bstephanus@iway.na
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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STEVE VANGORDER AVEC RODALE EN PENNSYLVANIE A DEVELOPPE LE «RAS » VERS
1978. LES PROFESSIONNELS ALORS ONT TOUS DIT QUE CELA NE SERAIT JAMAIS
PRATIQUE A DES FINS COMMERCIALES. QUELLE ERREUR! STEVE A ENSEIGNÉ DANS
MES COURS DE FORMATION QUI ONT ETE SUIVIS PAR GENS DE NOMBREUX PAYS.
C'EST MAINTENANT LA PERIODE DE TRANSITION POUR SIMPLIFIER L'EQUILIBRE
ECOLOGIQUE NATUREL DANS LESQUELS LES PLANTES ET LES ALGUES NETTOIENT
L'EAU. SUPPORT DE PLASTIQUES, MOUSSES OU VIEUX PLASTIQUES DANS DES SEAUX
OU DES TONNEAUX DE RECUPERATION SONT AERES ET SERVENT DE SUPPORTS POUR
LES BACTERIES NITRIFIANTES. DES TROUS SONT DECOUPES SUR LES CÔTÉS POUR
LA CROISSANCE DES PLANTES - LEGUMES, HERBES, LAITUE OU SEMIS
L'EAU EST POMPEE DU FOND DU BASSIN VERS LE HAUT DES SEAUX. 30 WATT
PUMP/100 LIVRES DE POISSON. CELA PEUT ETRE DU PHOTOVOLTAIQUE OU DES
EOLIENNES AVEC UN ALTERNATEUR DE VEHICULE POUR POMPAGE.
Le 04/10/2012 06:23, Charles Johnson a écrit :
> STEVE VANGORDER WITH RODALE IN PENNSYLVANIA DEVELOPED THE RAS AROUND
> 1978. PROFESSIONALS AT THAT TIME ALL SAID THAT IT WOULD NEVER BE
> PRACTICAL FOR COMMERCIAL USE. HOW WRONG THEY WERE! STEVE TAUGHT SOME
> OF MY TRAINING COURSES AT WHICH FOLKS FROM MANY COUNTRIES ATTENDED.
>
> NOW IS TRANSITION TIME TO SIMPLIFY TO THE NATURAL - ECOLOGICAL BALANCE
> IN WHICH PLANTS AND ALGAE CLEAN UP THE WATER. SHREDDED PLASTIC,
> STYRAFOAM OR OLD PLASTIC IN DISCARDED BUCKETS OR BARRELS OXYGENATE
> AND ARE HOST FOR NITRIFYING BACTERIA. HOLES ARE CUT IN SIDES FOR PLANT
> GROWTH - VEGETABLES, HERBS, LETTUCE OR NURSERY PLANTS.
>
> THE WATER IS PUMPED FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE FISH TANK TO THE TOP OF THE
> BUCKETS. 30 WATT PUMP/100 POUNDS OF FISH. THIS CAN BE SOLARVOLTAIC OR
> WINDMILLS WITH A JUNK VEHICLE ALTERNATOR FOR PUMPING.
>
> WITH RESPECT,
> CHARLIE JOHNSON, DVM
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* BADIANE ABDOUL <badianeabdoul(a)yahoo.fr>
> *To:* "sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk"
> <sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
>
> RAS is now essential for the development of aquaculture in Africa. ok
> the cost is high (energy, tech, food, etc...) but it is very
> profitable. So it's not small investors who will be able to build but
> only leading investors can afford to have.
> With regard to the cost of production per kg for my case the RAS I
> head in Côte d'Ivoire, it is about 1000 f cfa (but the sale price is
> excellent) can be higher cages or ponds production. But how many
> production you can do in the year with the RAS while for cages or
> ponds you can do more than 2 harvests.
> Our RAS have only 0.4 ha of growing and we produces 3,000 tonnes year.
> 0.4 ha of Pond cant do it.
> Environment impact of RAS is less than cages or pondsfarms. The
> little water that comes out is treated and reused
> The problem of the RAS in Africa is they have never been managed by
> capable people. Make fish farming would never mean that can handle a
> RAS it takes a high-tech
> your post does not take into account many factors. Think that the RAS
> will not work in Africa is really stopped the development of this sector.
> *BADIANE Abdoul Aziz
> Aquaculture Specialist /Consultant
> Supervisor production HydroFish *
> 06 BP 316
> Abidjan 06
> *Côte d' Ivoire*
> Tel: (+225) 22 40 25 12
> Fax: (+225) 22 40 32 20
> Mobil: (+225) 58 48 93 00
>
> *De :* African Tilapia <africantilapia(a)gmail.com>
> *À :* sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 3 octobre 2012 9h09
> *Objet :* Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
>
> Dear All,
> Well said Nick!
> Many of the people selling such systems are technical sales people
> with little or no background in Aquaculture in Africa, and some simple
> calculations would show their systems are not competitive with
> traditional pond-based or cage-based production techniques. These RAS
> systems depend on reasonable cost grid power supplies, and in Africa
> obtaining these is expensive, and the supply is extremely unreliable.
> Back-up generators just add to the cost, and are often so poorly
> maintained that their reliability in an emergency situation is suspect.
> Unfortunately these “white elephants” are not only giving RAS a bad
> name, but also (from an investment aspect) Aquaculture in general, and
> South African systems in particular an unsavory reputation.
> While there is no doubt that RAS has a place in the overall scheme of
> things, most applications of these technologies are usually only
> cost-effective for tasks such as hatcheries and holding systems. In
> Africa, with such a wealth of still unexploited sites for gravity fed
> ponds and quality waterbodies for cages, it will be long time before
> RAS can produce fish at the same price.
> Adrian Piers
> Agriculture, Fisheries and Aquaculture Consulting
> East African Community and SADC Region
> Phone ++260 965 445464 (Zambia)
> Email tilapia(a)zambia.co.zm <mailto:tilapia@zambia.co.zm>
> *From:* sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> [mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Nick James
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:49 PM
> *To:* sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
> Dear Stephanus
> I am intrigued to know the aquaculture credentials of the "South
> African Engineering company" that did the design of your project. Did
> they show you a working model of their design that was fully
> operational? If they did not, were they able to give you referral to
> an overseas or inter-African example of where their design parameters
> were working?
> I ask because SA is getting a reputation for high-tech system designs
> that simply do not lead to profitably operational fish farms.
> A 500 tonne/pa. tilapia farm is considerable in terms of production
> and infrastructure requirements...BUT it is the way that it is done
> that will make the difference between yet another white
> elephant...and a viable aquaculture unit. We are getting a little
> tired of these "engineer-designed" set-ups designed by people who have
> never kept a fish alive in their lives, as they are giving RAS
> aquaculture in Africa a bad name.
> regards
> Nick
> Nicholas P E James
> Rivendell Hatchery
> PO Box 6146
> Grahamstown
> 6141 South Africa
> Cell 082 575 9781
> email nickjames(a)intekom.co.za <mailto:nickjames@intekom.co.za>
> WEBSITE http://www.rivendellhatchery.co.za/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Dear William,
>
> Allow me to take this opportunity to introduce my selves. I am
> Benedictus Stephanus from Namibia. We are battling to get an Fresh
> water Fish farm off the ground at the Naute Dam for the last
> 4years. Of the challenges we have are more of technical support
> base. Thus we are in need of a technical partner which could take
> care of the technical requirements of the project.
>
> We look forward towards the valuable support from the forum at large.
>
> Kindly,
>
> Benedictus Stephanus
> Executive Chairman
> Naute Aqua Fish Farms cc
> Mobil: +265 856 095 352
> Email: bstephanus(a)iway.na <mailto:bstephanus@iway.na>
>
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INTensification Raisonnée et Ecologique pour une PIsciculture Durable - Persyst
Cirad - La Recherche agronomique pour le développement
TA B-110/B
Campus international de Baillarguet
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suite des échanges sur les les système "RAS"
Le 04/10/2012 03:32, Warren A. Turner a écrit :
Bonjour Badiane,
Si les systèmes RAS sont tellement rentables, comment se fait-Asie ne
produit pas de tilapia de cette façon? Le Vietnam a récemment produit 1
million de tonnes par an de poisson-chat Pangasius, rien à partir de
systèmes RAS, pourquoi?
Systèmes RAS sont utiles pour:
1) Produire des espèces de grande valeur dont une bonne maîtrise de
l'environnement est nécessaire.
2) Produire du poisson où la biosécurité élevé est nécessaire - SPF
crevettes, le barramundi en nurserie, etc
3) Production de poissons tropicaux dans les climats où la température
de chauffage est un coût important et vice-versa sans doute, par exemple
si vous voulez produire du saumon en Thaïlande au moyen de refroidisseurs.
4) Production de poissons où le foncier est très coûteux - comme dans
une ville.
5) Produire du poisson dans les zones arides et où le sol n'est pas
adapté pour les bassins, comme dans le désert.
6) Pour les aquariums publics.
>
> Hi Badiane,
>
> If RAS systems are so profitable, how come Asia doesn’t produce
> tilapia this way? Vietnam was recently producing 1 million tonnes per
> year of Pangasius catfish, none of it from RAS systems, why?
>
> RAS systems are useful for:
>
> 1) Producing high value species in which good environmental control is
> required.
>
> 2) Producing fish where high biosecurity is required – SPF shrimp,
> barramundi nursing, etc.
>
> 3) Producing tropical fish in temperature climates where heating is a
> major cost and probably vice versa, for example if you wanted to
> produce salmon in Thailand using coolers.
>
> 4) Producing fish where land is very expensive – such as in a city.
>
> 5) Producing fish in arid areas and where soil is not suitable for
> ponds, such as in the desert.
>
> 6) For public aquariums.
>
> There are many systems and many ways to raise fish. The one most
> suitable is the one that produces fish at the lowest cost per kg. If
> that cost is significantly lower than the present market price for
> that species, then it is a viable business.
>
> To everyone - don’t be a lover or a hater, keep an open mind. All
> systems have their uses.
>
> Best regards
>
> Warren
>
> *From:* sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> [mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *BADIANE ABDOUL
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 6:05 PM
> *To:* sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
>
> RAS is now essential for the development of aquaculture in Africa. ok
> the cost is high (energy, tech, food, etc...) but it is very
> profitable. So it's not small investors who will be able to build but
> only leading investors can afford to have.
>
> With regard to the cost of production per kg for my case the RAS I
> head in Côte d'Ivoire, it is about 1000 f cfa (but the sale price is
> excellent) can be higher cages or ponds production. But how many
> production you can do in the year with the RAS while for cages or
> ponds you can do more than 2 harvests.
>
> Our RAS have only 0.4 ha of growing and we produces 3,000 tonnes year.
> 0.4 ha of Pond cant do it.
>
> Environment impact of RAS is less than cages or pondsfarms. The
> little water that comes out is treated and reused
>
> The problem of the RAS in Africa is they have never been managed by
> capable people. Make fish farming would never mean that can handle a
> RAS it takes a high-tech
>
> your post does not take into account many factors. Think that the RAS
> will not work in Africa is really stopped the development of this sector.
>
> *BADIANE Abdoul Aziz
> Aquaculture Specialist /Consultant
> Supervisor production HydroFish *
>
> 06 BP 316
> Abidjan 06
> *Côte d' Ivoire*
> Tel: (+225) 22 40 25 12
> Fax: (+225) 22 40 32 20
> Mobil: (+225) 58 48 93 00
>
> *De :* African Tilapia <africantilapia(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:africantilapia@gmail.com>>
> *À :* sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> <mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture@lists.stir.ac.uk>
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 3 octobre 2012 9h09
> *Objet :* Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
>
> Dear All,
>
> Well said Nick!
>
> Many of the people selling such systems are technical sales people
> with little or no background in Aquaculture in Africa, and some simple
> calculations would show their systems are not competitive with
> traditional pond-based or cage-based production techniques. These RAS
> systems depend on reasonable cost grid power supplies, and in Africa
> obtaining these is expensive, and the supply is extremely unreliable.
> Back-up generators just add to the cost, and are often so poorly
> maintained that their reliability in an emergency situation is suspect.
>
> Unfortunately these “white elephants” are not only giving RAS a bad
> name, but also (from an investment aspect) Aquaculture in general, and
> South African systems in particular an unsavory reputation.
>
> While there is no doubt that RAS has a place in the overall scheme of
> things, most applications of these technologies are usually only
> cost-effective for tasks such as hatcheries and holding systems. In
> Africa, with such a wealth of still unexploited sites for gravity fed
> ponds and quality waterbodies for cages, it will be long time before
> RAS can produce fish at the same price.
>
> Adrian Piers
>
> Agriculture, Fisheries and Aquaculture Consulting
>
> East African Community and SADC Region
>
> Phone ++260 965 445464 (Zambia)
>
> Email tilapia(a)zambia.co.zm <mailto:tilapia@zambia.co.zm>
>
> *From:* sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> <mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk>
> [mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk]
> <mailto:[mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture-bounces@lists.stir.ac.uk]> *On
> Behalf Of *Nick James
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 6:49 PM
> *To:* sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> <mailto:sarnissa-african-aquaculture@lists.stir.ac.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!
>
> Dear Stephanus
>
> I am intrigued to know the aquaculture credentials of the "South
> African Engineering company" that did the design of your project. Did
> they show you a working model of their design that was fully
> operational? If they did not, were they able to give you referral to
> an overseas or inter-African example of where their design parameters
> were working?
>
> I ask because SA is getting a reputation for high-tech system designs
> that simply do not lead to profitably operational fish farms.
>
> A 500 tonne/pa. tilapia farm is considerable in terms of production
> and infrastructure requirements...BUT it is the way that it is done
> that will make the difference between yet another white
> elephant...and a viable aquaculture unit. We are getting a little
> tired of these "engineer-designed" set-ups designed by people who have
> never kept a fish alive in their lives, as they are giving RAS
> aquaculture in Africa a bad name.
>
> regards
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas P E James
> Rivendell Hatchery
> PO Box 6146
> Grahamstown
> 6141 South Africa
> Cell 082 575 9781
>
> email nickjames(a)intekom.co.za <mailto:nickjames@intekom.co.za>
> WEBSITE http://www.rivendellhatchery.co.za/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> Dear William,
>
> Allow me to take this opportunity to introduce my selves. I am
> Benedictus Stephanus from Namibia. We are battling to get an Fresh
> water Fish farm off the ground at the Naute Dam for the last
> 4years. Of the challenges we have are more of technical support
> base. Thus we are in need of a technical partner which could take
> care of the technical requirements of the project.
>
> We look forward towards the valuable support from the forum at large.
>
> Kindly,
>
> Benedictus Stephanus
> Executive Chairman
> Naute Aqua Fish Farms cc
> Mobil: +265 856 095 352
> Email: bstephanus(a)iway.na <mailto:bstephanus@iway.na>
>
> No virus found in this message.
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UMR 110 Intrepid
INTensification Raisonnée et Ecologique pour une PIsciculture Durable - Persyst
Cirad - La Recherche agronomique pour le développement
TA B-110/B
Campus international de Baillarguet
34398 Montpellier cedex 5, France
tel: +33 (0)4 6759 38 37; Fax: +33 (0)4 67 59 38 25
Assistante: +33 (0)4 67 59 37 31
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