Dear Patrick,
When you say "BT" below, do you mean black tiger prawn?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Patrick Wood
<patrickjwood(a)yahoo.com <mailto:patrickjwood@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Tunde - can you give us figures on Nigerian catfish production?
Like how much is produced? How much is exported? How much catfish
fillets are imported into Nigeria?
From what Banjo says about profit and ease of growth for catfish
you would expect Nigeria to be a) self sufficient b) exporting
its surplus to other African countries.....for me that would be
more a determination of "success" than just an ability to have a
production larger than neighbours....
I guess all flow through systems are easier to manage than water
return systems (an aquaculture technology that is still in its
infancy globally).
Where and how exactly is the Nigerian government going to invest
in facilitating the development of the aquaculture value chain -
are you saying there will be investment in business to be managed
by the private sector or facilitating private sector investment
or both?
Can you let me know what is the current status of shrimp
aquaculture in Nigeria - is there any hope of developments as
there is now a captive BT population offshore and the fished
product seems to be doing well exported to Europe?
Patrick
On 13/09/2011 15:35, Tunde Atanda wrote:
Dear Will,
Thanks so much for always highlighting the tremendous progress
Nigeria is making in Catfish farming. From the response and
interactions during the COMHAFAT workshop in Libreville in June
it's quite obvious that other African countries can also benefit
immensely from Nigeria experience as the flow-through system is
not too complex unlike the Water Recycling System(WRS).Apart
from Kenya,Uganda is also making good progress in Catfish
farming. I can assure you that Nigeria will even do more as the
new Government is now more determined and commited to invest on
facilitating the development of the Aquaculture Value Chain
along purely business line to be driven by the private sector.
Thanks.
Tunde Atanda
National Facilitator,Aquaculture
National Programme for Food Security
127,Adetokunbo Ademola Crescent,Wuse II
Abuja.
NIGERIA.
Tel(mobile):+2348035871102
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*Sent:* Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 12:51
*Subject:* [Sarnissa] Catfish farming in Nigeria - why has it
succeeded ? Can it be replicated elsewhere in Africa?
*Catfish farming in Nigeria - why has it succeeded ? Can it be
replicated elsewhere in Africa?*
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*To hopefully add to the forum debate would recommend paper by
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*Publications*
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*The Rise of Peri-Urban aquaculture in Nigeria ***
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*http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/earthscan/ijas/2011/00000009/00000001/art00030
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*Also please find attached very nice (although a bit old)
Markets Value Chain Presentation/Report for Clarias in Nigeria
- note section in the end on potential for tilapia? In Nigeria . *
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*Videos*
*Many Videos on Clarias in Nigeria on sarnissa website videos
page please check them out *
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*http://www.sarnissa.org/tiki-index.php?page=Video%20links *
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*- see one example below of many showing entrepreneurial
background behind some of the producers – noting also how it
often women who make the best hatchery operators** ***
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*http://www.5min.com/Video/Catfish-Farming-in-Nigeria-444634718 *
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*Peri-urban Clarias production in Kenya?*
*Finally although “the jury is still out” in our discussion as
to whether catfish production industry in Nigeria can be
replicated elsewhere in SS Africa – the technology, design and
management used to develop peri-urban type Clarias farms in
Nigeria – this is now being used in Kenya where just outside
Nairobi a new Clarias fingerling production site has just
opened based on the Nigerian model. We await to see how it
develops………*
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*Sent:* 12 September 2011 19:51
*To:* Ololade; sarnissa-african-aquaculture Mailing List
*Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Fw: Freeze the Footprint of Food -
Nature piece
Hi Patrick,
I really don't know the history of catfish farming in other
African countries with reference to why it has not been
successful in terms of its establishment. But, there are few
things I know about Nigeria Catfish farming and its success.
Public Awareness
Nigerians are sensitive to businesses that generate profit at a
very short time. Catfish reaching a marketable size withing six
months gave this opportunity, not to talk of the short duration
of 4-6 weeks of producing the seeds of this specie and the
flexibilities involved in its production in terms of facilities.
Imagine some producers producing catfish fingerlings in the
toilet. So, "EVERYBODY" got engaged in catfish production to
make "JUST PROFIT"
Influx of Experts and Non-expert into the Business of Catfish
Production
Catfish being hardy surrendered itself to manipulation by the
non-experts in its production. You just need to go for a three
weeks training and you do it just like you are keeping a
pet. Those who didn't have the opportunity to produce turned out
to be sales agents distributing the product to "every" part of
Nigeria.
Population
Although, not statistically supported, only fraction of Nigeria
eat the Catfish produced by the producers - fish pepper soup
joint constituting largest percentage - yet there is still a
wide supply gap. The quantity of catfish produced within Nigeria
cannot at the moment support the stoppage of importation as
population far exceeds that the local catfish producers supply.
So, anyone entering the line of business at any point will make
profit.
Tilapia or other species not being able to replace Catfish
Tilapia is very tasty, but no Nigerians want to die of fish
bone. Tilapia has bone in the flesh which requires special
attention for consumption. When processed, its no more fresh and
personally, I will buy imported fish sold at the market than buy
expensive processed locally produced Tilapia. Same goes for
processed Catfish. This condition and customers perception about
fresh and non-fresh or processed fish prevent the market benefit
of product diversification.
Footnote:
There are potential challenges ahead.
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*Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2011 3:10 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Fw: Freeze the Footprint of Food -
Nature piece
Hi Guy,
I was about to ask the same question that Patrick asked about
the obvious reasons why catfish farming took off in Nigeria and
why a similar business model wouldnt work elsewhere in
Africa.............? Can you be more specific?
Regards.
Ololade
*From:* Patrick Wood <patrickjwood(a)yahoo.com>
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*Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2011 8:56 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Sarnissa] Fw: Freeze the Footprint of Food -
Nature piece
Hi Guy,
There is not enough space and time on a discussion group board
to expand on the different business models and different
marketing strategies available......nor am I an expert (I am
sure there are others who have written books about this
stuff?)......not sure what you mean by suitable though - do you
mean economically sustainable? If so guess it depends on the
business model adopted.
Importantly whatever production model one undertakes (as this
after all really a site about African aquaculture producion)
success or failure - gauged by economic sustainability and
growth - is very dependent on the "marketability" of the final
offering.
On your second paragraph - surely smoking and/or drying is just
another route to market and another offering.....especially so
where there is no ice or refrigeration logistics to take
something fresh to a marketplace. Alternative would be no sale
at all. So, in that "business model", profit margin may not be
as large (but that is mute anyway if no option) but at least it
is not a write-off......
I think one will find that if domestic decision makers, with all
the best intentions in the world to help develop countries,
tried to instigated market protection there would be stiff
resistance by the communities that tend to run the commercial
import/export trade in many countries in Africa - be they
nationalised Indian, Lebanese, Chinese or Europeans. Interests
and political will do not always agree.
Can you explain what is so obvious about the reason that catfish
fish farming took off in Nigeria.....and why a similar
development (or business?) model wouldn’t work elsewhere in Africa?
Salut,
Patrick
On 12/09/2011 09:03, Guy Delincé wrote:
Hi Patrick,
For the sake of the discussion, it would be nice if you could
expand on the business models and their market strategies that
you envisage or find suitable.
As for smoking or drying farmed fish, this does not consider
that the fish traditionally smoked or dried in capture
fisheries, is been processed because it cannot be sold fresh; it
is processed just before it is about to rot (in the best cases)
(even to hide the taste). This fish fetches a lower price than
the fresh one. Adding production costs through processing will
thus reduce your margins.
Convincing domestic decision-maker to protect their markets will
be very difficult, unless they have a particular stake in that
sector.
Of course, there is a major distinction between agriculture-led
countries and countries where industrialisation is developing.
The reason that catfish fish farming took off in Nigeria is
obvious, a similar development model wouldn’t work in a country
like Guinea, Burundi or CAR (if the country still exists ...)
Cheers,
Guy Delincé.
Le 09/09/2011 20:50, Patrick Wood a écrit :
Hi Guy,
I think that you have mistakenly used a logistics export model
for high value game fish (weekly prices, air freight, auctions)
that is not applicable to a low cost commodity traded product
like tilapia.
The reason Chinese tilapia are cheap is simply because they are
exporting to Africa 20%+ water pick up in the fillet using
polyphosphates, not to mention playing with the glaze so even
the net weights are often lower than stated. Also Chinese
producers get export subsidies. So, in a lot of ways it is not
about aquaculture at all.
Producers in Africa can go the Chinese way in the local
marketplace or differentiate their products (fresh and without
chemicals), smoked, dried, etc.
We started South American tilapia exports with frozen to the US
but this soon developed to a fresh fillet system as Chinese
frozen tilapia made it impossible to compete.
Of course a methodology much used in other countries to promote
local industry (Brazil used it for many years) is to ban imports
or tax them in such a way as to allow local competition or
encumbent industries to survive. Even the US does it now with
the Southern shrimp alliance....taxes are then directed towards
helping internal industry - but this takes a lot of political
will and probably a lot of mud slinging about denying Africans
food security etc......
...........according to Jason Clay this will indirectly happen
anyway as producers from SE Asia will re-route products to feed
the burgeoning developed countries population and ever
increasing demand for seafood.
I guess that the old adage for seafood also stands even in
Africa - everyone talks about quality but buys on price.
Patrick
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