Dear all,
Quite interesting the whole topic of ES. I think we must agree that (i)
provision of ES in whichever form is required by most farmers (ii) some
farmers have more information than the "professional" ES providers. Why is
(ii) the case? First, what is the training of some of the providers? Quite
often, we have had to transform officers trained on capture fisheries into
aquaculturists. This is not a Kenyan problem but a common problem. Only
recently, a farmers called to say that the officer who advises him could
not help with some simple issue he wanted advice on. Obviously, if the
officer had been properly trained he would have been able to help.
Secondly, the issue of lacking in passion may not always be true. This may
be tied to the fact that a Capture Fisheries officer has a completely
different perspective on how he deals with clients. Capture fisheries
officers (I hope this term is clear!) are used to deal with illegal nets
and illegal fishing and may deal with farmers as if they are the police.
This does not augur well with learning.
Quite often the wrong advice is given due to ignorance. Even private
providers have been culprits of this, trying to get the quick buck. So at
the end of the day, we need to deal with the message that ES providers give
as well as the way it is presented. The message needs to be accurate and
concise. Simple manuals carefully edited and demonstrations or hands-on-
field experience may do. "Servanthood" in ES also needs to be inculcated
so that officers consider farmers as partners in the sector and not
antagonists. In a nutshell, change of attitude.
Limbu talks of the need for regular visits and mentoring. I think this is
quite necessary and will remain so for quite some time, especially where
farmers have not yet seen the commercial end of aquaculture.Quite a number
of farmers in Kenya have invested greatly in aquaculture and these are
basically more commercially oriented than not. We should however be moving
towards making farmers pay for the ES when they understand exactly why they
are keeping fish. This in my opinion can be done only when they are
convinced that they are getting value for money from the ES provided.
Best regards,
Harrison
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, peter limbu
<p_limbu@yahoo.com<mailto:p_limbu@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Hi Leslie, Rachel, Brynn & Paul,
Believe me, what is currently being discussed here is what is mainly
impacting to majority of African fish farmers/ pioneers especially
community –based organizations/groups. I hold a Master degree in
Aquaculture, with good field experience from the Mekong Delta Vietnam (on
freshwater and mariculture techniques), Innoflex farm in Hungary (on
African catfish farming), Wageningen University (on RAS of Nile Tilapia,
African Catfish and European eeI) just to mention a few. To merge all
skills, I have been in the field working with farmers (enterprise
groups)
along Tanzania coast communities (whose education level is still low) on
Milkfish farming, mud crab fattening and Pearl Oyster farming for more
than
2 years. My initial training technique was to conduct the so called
“in-situ” training of all farmers at their villages (covering farming
techniques and Business & Entrepreneurship training) which was very
successful. We then built a team of Community-Based-Trainers (CBTs) who
attended 2 weeks TOT and got mentored by myself and other experienced
Fisheries officers (before allowing them to directly attend farmers
independently) to make sure that immediate queries from farmers could be
attended at their community level. During mentorship of CBTs,
significant achievement was seen in proper pond and crab cage
construction,
increased milkfish fingerling and Juvenile mud crab collection and
stocking
at right densities which led to each group harvest at least once per year
1. In the following year, costs for extension service (in line with what
Leslie highlighted) were already high and so we reduced from a bi-weekly
mentoring frequency to a monthly and slowly to bi-monthly. Yes we indeed
cut down monitoring costs in Year 2 but we negatively impacted to
mariculture production as ONLY half of the enterprise groups managed to
successfully harvest!
While assessing the project progress we came up with the following
observation:
Training is NOT everything to fish farmers, rather regular monitoring,
mentoring and follow ups (ES) are critical to their success;
Low education level negatively affected the theoretical trainings as
majority could not take notes for records;
Farmers learn better by doing and repeatedly to build hands-on field
practice;
Successful Aquaculture need patience as farmers spend initial phases to
slowly learn and convert the technology into a normal commercial
business.
In my opinion, our training, intensification and frequency of ES on
mentoring and monitoring should be differentiated to low educated
communities and highly educated farmers (as mentioned by Leslie) offering
the former more attention before being thrown to a stand-alone team of
farmers.
A typical example is what is being highlighted by Brynn on the training
conducted in South Africa to the Abalone farmers. So I remain optimistic
that we are not stagnant, we are making some steps forward but our pace
could be amplified more if we increased our ES to the needy. I strongly
recommend priority to allocation of funding associated with ES if we want
to see Aquaculture production after spending massive effort to train fish
farmers.
Thanks.
Limbu
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Hi Leslie,
May be i should have said "Professional". How many seed and feed
suppliers
have laid out plans on assessing their product performance and prefernce.
I
just recieved a farmer from Isinya-Kenya complaining of poor handling of
fish seed on delivery by a well renouned farm. this has caused the farmer
a
great loss.?Is that professionalism or being money minded. True
professionals are few and you can tell the passion and commitment?in them
in their various fields. Leslie, come out and reach to the fish farmers
and
ask them the last time they had a professional attend to them and if they
were satissfied with services rendered.
May the other members can help on this.
Paul Orina
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Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 2:27 AM
Good morning Paul
?
From my experience the bulk of people who enter
the Industry as
professionals do so because of a passion relating to fish; either
breeding,
fishing, spearfishing or the like.? Therefore I cannot agree with your
statement that ` This latter character lacks the passion and commitment?.
?
Regards,
Leslie
?
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?
One thing i have learnt over time even on matters of religion is that
there are two groups of religious leaders; 1. As a call 2. As a
profession.
This two characters exist too in aquaculture. However, the latter seems
to
carry the day. This latter character lacks the passion and committment.
The Kenyan situation for aquaculture is abit tricky if not approached
with
care. The program was a national one with limited number 1 characters. At
some point we have had situations where farmers are more knowledgeable
than
the service providers. We need to contend with realities when it calls
for.
I suppose that if dedicated selected farmers would be identified for
training as ES, this will work very well. Its easier for them to pass the
message at?cluster levels and reduce dependancy on state staff. State
staff
should probably be used to improve and intensify?on the existing sysytems
by ensuring farmers advance to RAS, marketing and networking and quality
feed use. ?
Paul
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Date: Monday, June 18, 2012, 4:58 AM
Excellent, if you have a model for running quality ESs without costing
too
much that is superb, but unusual.? I find that the cost of travel,
salaries, equipment, etc all add up very quickly.
?
Regards,
Leslie
?
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?Leslie
?
I would disagree with you about the operational costs of running ES. We
are doing it succesfully in horticulture and? have now found 2 groups in
Kenya with a similar model focusing on aquaculture.?
?
Rachel
?
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Good morning Rachel
?
I feel that Extension Support is critical for success.? Unfortunately, ES
has developed a poor reputation because it was mainly provided by state
employees who were under resourced, short of practical experience
themselves and not commercially motivated or orientated.? Such ES should
rather come from a commercial player with practical experience in the
relevant field (infrastructure type, scale of operation, species, etc).?
Where projects are linked under a single umbrella it is easier to justify
the cost associated with such ES, thereby giving the Projects a far
higher
chance of commercial success.? Where I do not immediately see a solution
is
for farmers who are low in business and aquaculture skills being
supported
through ES on a stand-alone basis, as the costs are too high for such
operators to carry.
?
Regards,
Leslie
?
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Leslie
?
Fabulous feedback... Even in horticulture, there?isn't a
"one-off"?training solution that ensures success.? So in?light of?your
feedback, how?do we give more rural farmers?access to the practical
knowledge, training and mentorship they need???
?
I?think its also important to focus on the business side training.?
Farmers need to start understanding the potential gross margin before
making the initial investment into their own training or technologies.
?
Rachel?
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Good evening Rachel & Paul
?
?
There is a misconception that training makes fish farmers, this is simply
not true, or at least not true if the training is a once off event and
the
trainees have low skill and education levels.? We offer numerous training
options from 2 days to 12 weeks, with the longer Courses including a
significant proportion of practical experience.? A commercially
orientated
person coming from a background of high skills and technical competence
can
attend such a Course and have all he/she needs to be a successful fish
farmer by applying the skills and disciplines they were taught.? However,
more and more we find ourselves training people who come from low
education
levels and it is essential that the training these people receive is
followed up with an extensive period (open ended?) of mentorship and
support, most especially when they are operating recirculating systems.?
It
is unrealistic to expect that such people can be exposed to the volume
and
level of
technical information included in thorough training, digest it all and
apply it successfully without such support.
?
?
Regards,
Leslie
?
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?
Paul... Excellent feedback.
?
So how do we make expert knowledge available to a wider audience??? We
are
launching mobile extension in horticulture production but farming is
still
done in the dirt. I am new to fish farming and?understand your
frustration.?The majority of small scale projects have failed due to a
lack
of access to good quality technical knowledge.? So what can fill the
gap:?
Mobile extension? Open source design & manuals??Public service camapigns
through the Ministry
?
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Backpack Farm Agriculture Program?
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Hey this is good to know. Good for Sammy and Good for Kenya too. Am
however concerned about the numerous trainings our staff have gained with
no meaningful change in service delivery styles. If we spend either
government or scholarship funds to acquire knowledge, lets make it a
culture to impart the same to the society.
Thank you Karen for the initiative and hope that you have a post training
strategy of measuring the impact of knowledge imparted to graduants of
this
programme. Am sure Sammy is upto the task and will help aquaculture scale
higher hights in this country.
I hope this are kind words to all of us.
Paul Orina
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Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 9:24 AM
Congratulations Sammy!
we pray that many more of us can follow in you footsteps.
Thank you Karen for the support you have given to Africa as a whole in
Aquaculture!
I know CAP is an expensive but a very good and worthwhile program for
those in Aquaculture. I hope that there some sponsors out there
willing to at least part sponsor those interested so that many more
can gain and achieve even greater milestones.
Suzanne Njeri,
Kamiti fish & Integrated farm
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Well done Sammy and those behind CAP.
Lack of (or inadequate) skills is one of the issues that we often deal
with
in the system supply business. People often
forget that once the system
is
built, it needs competent and well motivated
people operating it.
It is exciting to see that there is forward movement in this area with
more
training options available to aquaculturists and
fish farm staff. In
South
Africa a lot of work has been done in the abalone
industry that is
related
to skills training and education and I expect
that this is paying off
dividends.
Regards
Brynn
Brynn Simpson
Deep Blue Aquatic Systems
South Africa
Tel: +27 21 8562031
Cell: +27 83 9763672
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On 11 Jun 2012, at 16:18, Karen L. Veverica wrote:
This is to congratulate the first person in Africa to successfully
complete
the Certification of Aquaculture Professional
program.
He is Sammy Macaria, with the Kenya Fisheries Department.
The AquaFish Collaborative Research Support Program sponsored his
subscription to the series of 136 lectures split into 10 modules, each
followed by an exam. ?Sammy will continue to have access to these
modules
over the next 3 years and he will receive any new modules free of
charge
during the next 3 years. ?The certification comes with online advisory
services from Auburn as well.
The CAP is available in English and in Spanish. We are trying to get
the
funds to do the french translation but need at least 20 paid
subscriptions
in French for this to begin.
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International Center for Aquaculture and Aquatic Environments
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