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Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:22 PM
Subject: Aquaponics Training
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Good afternoon Will
Please circulate these two Training Courses being held in South Africa:
2-day Aquaponics Course, Pretoria, 23-24 July 2018
5-day practical Aquaculture Course, Aquaculture Academy, Grahamstown, 3-7
September 2018
Interested parties can contact us on info(a)aquaafrica.co.za.
Regards,
Leslie
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Opsaridium… I forgt the spp in the upper Zambezi.
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Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 9:41 AM
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Subject: Fwd: Species?
Adrian Piers
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From: African Fish <africantilapia(a)gmail.com<mailto:africantilapia@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:46 AM
Subject: Species?
To: William Leschen <william.leschen(a)stir.ac.uk<mailto:william.leschen@stir.ac.uk>>
Dear Will,
Please post.
Can anyone identify this fish? It is from the upper Zambezi, 35 Km above the falls.
Adrian Piers
Agriculture, Fisheries and Aquaculture Consulting
East African Community and SADC Region
Phone +260 965 445464 (Zambia)
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[Forwarded from Guy Delincé]
Hi Alexandra,
Another factor to consider for importing trout, is the origin of the fish.
Trout imported from Europe in the southern hemisphere need time to adjust
(for their biological rhythms) to the inversion of seasons. Also the
escapees of the farm can do a lot of harm to the local fish. It is overall
a very bad idea.. In the list of countries cited by Will you can add
Burundi.
The subject has been discussed many times over the years (and getting
rancid) more importantly about species that pose serious problems, such as
the *Pangasius*, that the information is more anecdotal than really worthy.
Nobody who has a real intention to seriously invest in a fish farming
venture would envisage to import trout. The government authorities would
not go on their own, since this require cash they would like to use more
rewardingly. It is just a dream of colonialists.
As Dr Emmanuel Frimpong rightly pointed out, the fish farmers who blame the
species, i.e. Tilapia, for the poor production don’t know how to farm
properly and point on the species as a culprit while all the responsibility
is lying on them.
In Burundi, most of the fish farming development envisaged was supposed to
be done in the rural areas which are all at a high altitude where the
growth of tilapia is poor. That was the reason why the re-introduction of
trout was considered. When I told them that the tilapia that had been
introduced in Tihange, Liége, Belgium, for farming in the recycled warm
waters of the nuclear power plant (see the aged publications of Mélard, for
instance : “Mélard C, 1986: Les bases biologiques de l'élevage intensif du
Tilapia du Nil Cahiers d'éthologïe appliquée.-Volume 6, fascicule 3 ISSN
0770-3767”) and the escapees of the farm would have adapted to live in the
nearby Meuse, in the cold and very temperate waters, they were surprised.
This means that the tilapia has a remarkable capacity to adapt to cold
waters, though it would affect their growth eventually. The solution for
the highlands is thus to select temperature-resistant strains and not to
import exotic species, that is so less resistant to handling considering
the hardiness of tilapia.
Farmers that have no tradition to handle live fish are better of with a
sturdy fish than with a salmonid.
Also, in Burundi all the rivers end up in Lake Tanganyika and nobody (all
the conservation-minded farmers) would not like to see trout ending up on
the shores of the Lake.
So if you think so, feel free to publish the information,
with regards,
Guy
>
>
>
> Le 11/05/2018 à 17:42, William Leschen via Sarnissa-african-aquaculture a
> écrit :
>
> Thanks Constantine
>
>
>
> I think what Jerome is referring to is actually getting the right
> quality of high % crude protein feed at a reasonable cost to cost
> effectively farm salmonids and often to remote locations. As some in
> this forum will be well aware rainbow and brown trout were introduced
> in colonial times into cooler parts of a number of mid – lower
> African countries way back in 1940s 1950s Kenya Tanzania Malawi and
> Madagascar as Alex points out…..
>
>
>
> The evidence base over all these years that salmonid culture has
> only really developed commercially in Lesotho with still some
> issues over financial viabilities… - In South Africa whilst also
> been introduced many years ago the trout farming sector there has never
> really developed into an industry – just my opinion ! some may disagree !
> - There are many factors why across mid to lower African continent
> this has been the case - other than fingerling production and feeds –
> and associated production and sales price per kg - markets and demand
> are also a significant factor…….
>
>
>
> Some relevant images from Kenya ….. Who benefits ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ????
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> - There have been many very engaging discussions and debates on
> sarnissa over the years concerning African aquaculture with I would
> say Trying to Reinvent the wheel …….. being one of the outcomes
> that is common to many of them ….
>
>
>
> Thank you for all your contributions - keep writing !
>
>
>
> Best wishes Will
>
>
>
> *From:* Alexandra Pounds <alexandrapounds(a)gmail.com>
> <alexandrapounds(a)gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 11 May 2018 13:23
> *To:* JEROME LAZARD <jerome.lazard(a)cirad.fr> <jerome.lazard(a)cirad.fr>
> *Cc:* Ondhoro Constantine Chobet <occonstantine88(a)gmail.com>
> <occonstantine88(a)gmail.com>; sarnissa-african-aquaculture Mailing List
> <sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk>
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> *Subject:* Re: Self introduction
>
>
>
> Moreover - what species of fish do locals prefer? If the goal is to make
> fish available to all, demands from local markets are important to
> consider, as well as the sustainability of feed requirements.
>
>
>
> Trout was introduced to the highlands of Madagascar some years ago. While
> grow-out was successful and the local markets gobbled up the trout, the
> project fizzled out because fry sourcing was unreliable and unpredictable.
> If Mt. Elgon and Kigezi Hills decide that they do indeed wish to introduce
> trout, establishment of a *profitable* hatchery for long-term production
> would be crucial.
>
>
>
> - Alexandra
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 12:30 PM, JEROME LAZARD via
> Sarnissa-african-aquaculture <sarnissa-african-aquaculture@
> lists.stir.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I am not sure that the carnivorous Rainbow trout is the right fish in
> order to avail food fish to all. Carps would probably be a better choice.
>
> Regards, Jérôme Lazard
>
>
>
> *De :* Sarnissa-african-aquaculture [mailto:sarnissa-african-aquac
> ulture-bounces(a)lists.stir.ac.uk] *De la part de* Ondhoro Constantine
> Chobet via Sarnissa-african-aquaculture
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 10 mai 2018 15:14
> *À :* sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk
> *Objet :* Self introduction
>
>
>
> Dear admin and the forum,
>
> I am Ondhoro Constantine Chobet from Uganda. I am a scientist and I work
> with the National Agricultural Research organization (NARO) in Uganda.
> Today I am very grateful joining SARNISA again, purposely to share the
> little I may know and to learn more from the forum. As you may be aware, of
> recent we discovered that not everywhere in Uganda is suitable for warm
> water fish culture. Some areas especially Mt. Elgon and the Kigezi hills
> are relatively colder than it is required to sustain warm water fish
> species. We are currently working to introduce Rainbow trout in these areas
> in order to avail food fish to all. Interested individuals are welcome to
> join us to further this cause, at Buginyanya Zonal Agricultural Research
> and Development Institute (Mbale-Uganda).
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
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Ok, increases in supply. It's very interesting to hear that people want a
new taste of fish - "taste" is so subjective and dependent on culture. Has
anyone else felt (or not) the effects of illegal imports into Nigeria?
D'accord, augmentation d'offre. C'est trés intéressant entendre que des
personnes veulent un nouveau gout de poisson - "gout" est trés subjectif et
dépendant de la culture. Il y a des autres personnes qui ont sentir (ou
pas) des effets du commerce illicit au Nigeria?
Alexandra
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Babatunde Oreyemi <oreyemibabs(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Many thanks.
> In the case of seasonality, this occurs during and the offset of the rainy
> season. At this time, fishermen are able to catch more fishes in the
> country water bodies making the availability high. On the part of the
> people, they want a new taste of fish and these set of fish are relatively
> cheaper than cultured fish.
>
> The smuggling issue is still there, but considering my area, the act has
> decreased. Many of the cold rooms have closed shops. Due to the constant
> power outages, the few available ones are left struggling.
>
> BABATUNDE OREYEMI,
> BEEKEEPER & CATFISH FINGERLING PRODUCER,
> 9, BISI MORAFA STREET, GRA, IJEBU ODE, OGUN STATE.
> 234-08055203894
> 234-08102135278
> 234-09027436799 -whatsapp
>
> On May 12, 2018 04:26, "Alexandra Pounds" <alexandrapounds(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It is great to read about your first-hand experience - thanks for
>> sharing. Do you find that the seasonality is connected to local customs or
>> certain times of year when people want to eat more fish? Or is the
>> seasonality of market price due to increased production of fish during
>> certain times of year?
>>
>> High taxes placed on imported fish is resulting in unprofitable cold
>> rooms, and potentially an increase in illegal trade? (illegal imports don't
>> pay taxes). While taxes are meant to protect local trade, taxes that are
>> too high increase the illegal trade, which ends up hurting local trade...
>> Is this is case in Nigeria?
>>
>>
>> C'est genial lire de votre experience - merci de partager. Trouvez-vous
>> que le saisonnalité est connecté à des coutumes locals, ou temps d'année
>> quand des personnes veulent manger plus de poisson? Ou, le saisonnalité de
>> le prix de marché est à cause de l'augmentation de production de poisson
>> pendant certains temps d'année?
>>
>> Des taxes qui sont mis en place sur poisson importé résultent des salles
>> froides peu profitable, et pourrait résulter un augmentation du commerce
>> illicit? (Des importations illicit ne paye pas des taxes). Alors que des
>> taxes devraient proteger de commerce local, des taxes que sont trop hautes
>> pourrait augmenter du commerce illicit, quel finalement endommager du
>> commerce illicit... C'est ça le cas au Nigeria?
>>
>> Alexandra
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Babatunde Oreyemi <oreyemibabs(a)gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I ll suggest you carry out further research on this article.
>>> What is keeping the price of fish down in Nigeria is not about imported
>>> fish. The high tarrif placed on imported fish is making many cold rooms the
>>> receiver of this imported fish go under.
>>> Am a fish farmer here and I can say two things are making the price go
>>> down and they are
>>> 1. Season of the year
>>> 2. As the cost of production becomes high, people won't have the
>>> purchasing means to buy.
>>> Nigeria aquaculture is yet to saturate the market.
>>>
>>> BABATUNDE OREYEMI,
>>> BEEKEEPER & CATFISH FINGERLING PRODUCER,
>>> 9, BISI MORAFA STREET, GRA, IJEBU ODE, OGUN STATE.
>>> 234-08055203894
>>> 234-08102135278
>>> 234-09027436799 -whatsapp
>>>
>>> On May 11, 2018 18:56, "Alexandra Pounds via
>>> Sarnissa-african-aquaculture" <sarnissa-african-aquaculture@
>>> lists.stir.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This article suggests that while there is a potential for new tilapia
>>>> and catfish farms in Nigeria, it also suggests that illegal imports are
>>>> keeping market prices down.
>>>>
>>>> Are illegal imports of tilapia and catfish in Nigeria are preventing
>>>> Nigerian aquaculture farms from being financially competitive? Should the
>>>> government prevent this? If so, how?
>>>>
>>>> https://independent.ng/tilapia-farming-expert-guarantees-40-
>>>> return-on-investment/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cette article suggére que il y a un potentiel pour d'aquaculture de
>>>> tilapia et poisson-chat au Nigeria. Il suggére aussi que l'importation
>>>> illicit de tilapia et poisson-chat préviennent l'augmentation du prix du
>>>> marché.
>>>>
>>>> Des poissons importé, préviennent-ils des enterprises d'aquaculture au
>>>> Nigeria d'etre competitif financièrement? Le gouvernement, devraient-ils
>>>> prevenir ça? Si oui, comme?
>>>>
>>>> https://independent.ng/tilapia-farming-expert-guarantees-40-
>>>> return-on-investment/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> MSc Sustainable Aquaculture, University of Stirling
>> BSc Earth Systems, Stanford University
>> (+1) 650.336.4554
>> (+44) 757.283.9224
>>
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It is great to read about your first-hand experience - thanks for sharing.
Do you find that the seasonality is connected to local customs or certain
times of year when people want to eat more fish? Or is the seasonality of
market price due to increased production of fish during certain times of
year?
High taxes placed on imported fish is resulting in unprofitable cold rooms,
and potentially an increase in illegal trade? (illegal imports don't pay
taxes). While taxes are meant to protect local trade, taxes that are too
high increase the illegal trade, which ends up hurting local trade... Is
this is case in Nigeria?
C'est genial lire de votre experience - merci de partager. Trouvez-vous que
le saisonnalité est connecté à des coutumes locals, ou temps d'année quand
des personnes veulent manger plus de poisson? Ou, le saisonnalité de le
prix de marché est à cause de l'augmentation de production de poisson
pendant certains temps d'année?
Des taxes qui sont mis en place sur poisson importé résultent des salles
froides peu profitable, et pourrait résulter un augmentation du commerce
illicit? (Des importations illicit ne paye pas des taxes). Alors que des
taxes devraient proteger de commerce local, des taxes que sont trop hautes
pourrait augmenter du commerce illicit, quel finalement endommager du
commerce illicit... C'est ça le cas au Nigeria?
Alexandra
On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Babatunde Oreyemi <oreyemibabs(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I ll suggest you carry out further research on this article.
> What is keeping the price of fish down in Nigeria is not about imported
> fish. The high tarrif placed on imported fish is making many cold rooms the
> receiver of this imported fish go under.
> Am a fish farmer here and I can say two things are making the price go
> down and they are
> 1. Season of the year
> 2. As the cost of production becomes high, people won't have the
> purchasing means to buy.
> Nigeria aquaculture is yet to saturate the market.
>
> BABATUNDE OREYEMI,
> BEEKEEPER & CATFISH FINGERLING PRODUCER,
> 9, BISI MORAFA STREET, GRA, IJEBU ODE, OGUN STATE.
> 234-08055203894
> 234-08102135278
> 234-09027436799 -whatsapp
>
> On May 11, 2018 18:56, "Alexandra Pounds via Sarnissa-african-aquaculture"
> <sarnissa-african-aquaculture(a)lists.stir.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> This article suggests that while there is a potential for new tilapia and
>> catfish farms in Nigeria, it also suggests that illegal imports are keeping
>> market prices down.
>>
>> Are illegal imports of tilapia and catfish in Nigeria are preventing
>> Nigerian aquaculture farms from being financially competitive? Should the
>> government prevent this? If so, how?
>>
>> https://independent.ng/tilapia-farming-expert-guarantees-40-
>> return-on-investment/
>>
>>
>> Cette article suggére que il y a un potentiel pour d'aquaculture de
>> tilapia et poisson-chat au Nigeria. Il suggére aussi que l'importation
>> illicit de tilapia et poisson-chat préviennent l'augmentation du prix du
>> marché.
>>
>> Des poissons importé, préviennent-ils des enterprises d'aquaculture au
>> Nigeria d'etre competitif financièrement? Le gouvernement, devraient-ils
>> prevenir ça? Si oui, comme?
>>
>> https://independent.ng/tilapia-farming-expert-guarantees-40-
>> return-on-investment/
>>
>
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MSc Sustainable Aquaculture, University of Stirling
BSc Earth Systems, Stanford University
(+1) 650.336.4554
(+44) 757.283.9224
This article suggests that while there is a potential for new tilapia and
catfish farms in Nigeria, it also suggests that illegal imports are keeping
market prices down.
Are illegal imports of tilapia and catfish in Nigeria are preventing
Nigerian aquaculture farms from being financially competitive? Should the
government prevent this? If so, how?
https://independent.ng/tilapia-farming-expert-guarantees-40-return-on-inves…
Cette article suggére que il y a un potentiel pour d'aquaculture de tilapia
et poisson-chat au Nigeria. Il suggére aussi que l'importation illicit de
tilapia et poisson-chat préviennent l'augmentation du prix du marché.
Des poissons importé, préviennent-ils des enterprises d'aquaculture au
Nigeria d'etre competitif financièrement? Le gouvernement, devraient-ils
prevenir ça? Si oui, comme?
https://independent.ng/tilapia-farming-expert-guarantees-40-return-on-inves…
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Salut Will et d'autres,
L'article a quelques erreurs factuelles mais c'est surtout sur le sujet. L'utilisation de «espèces» et de «souches» de façon interchangeable prête à confusion. Le ministre actuel du développement des pêches et de l'aquaculture a été en poste pendant un peu plus d'un an et n'aurait pas pu faire de politique en 2014. Le prêt / don de 53 millions de dollars de la Banque mondiale (?) Souvent cité est expiré ou expire depuis cinq ans. ou alors le projet était axé à 80% sur la pêche et 20% sur l'aquaculture, et pour lequel nous devrions parler maintenant de ses résultats plutôt que de ses objectifs.
Sur les questions de fond, l'interdiction de l'importation de tilapia entier et de tilapia vivants congelés est deux politiques différentes - à la fois quelque peu mal informées. L'interdiction du tilapia congelé est censée réduire la concurrence des producteurs asiatiques, mais il existe des preuves que le tilapia est toujours importé dans le cadre de la politique actuelle. Une politique qui crée un environnement propice à l'amélioration de la productivité et de la rentabilité (meilleures tensions et alimentation à bas prix, par exemple) semblerait atteindre davantage pour les agriculteurs et l'économie. La restriction sur le DON et les autres souches améliorées de tilapia ne serait efficace que si (1) il existe une bonne souche comparable disponible pour les agriculteurs au Ghana, et 2) le gouvernement a la capacité de surveiller et de détecter les différentes souches cultivées. Malheureusement, les deux conditions précédentes ne sont pas remplies.
Nous avons des données sur la croissance et la génétique qui montrent que la souche Akosombo soutenue par le gouvernement ne croît qu'environ la moitié de la taille du GIFT en un temps égal et que le GIFT a un meilleur TCF. Sans surprise, la souche chinoise GIFT est cultivée sur certaines fermes au Ghana et il y a déjà des traces du CADEAU dans le lac sauvage d'Akosombo. L'augmentation des maladies ainsi que l'introduction des souches «étrangères» sont le résultat de l'absence de mesures de quarantaine parce que le gouvernement ne supervise pas les importations. Il se fait sous couverture ... mais il se répand néanmoins.
La nouvelle politique du Ghana, s'il y en a une à l'horizon, devrait être consciente de l'environnement actuel (quelles contraintes existent déjà dans le pays), que ce qui est permis dans les pays voisins affecte la capacité du Ghana à appliquer sa propre politique. La capacité de l'ARDEC d'écloserie gouvernementale à la fois de poursuivre les projets d'amélioration génétique et de surveiller le respect des restrictions d'importation, et il y a une énorme expertise du secteur privé dans le pays et ailleurs sur le continent qui peut être utilisée dans les PPP.
Emmanuel
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