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Le 04/10/2012 08:08, James Miller a écrit :

à tous,

Un certain nombre de critères et de conditions sont nécessaires pour porduire des poissons, et beaucoup de choses ont été essayées en Afrique. Grâce à ces années d'expérience et des nombreuses leçons apprises, le vieil adage est vrai: «faire simple », en particulier pendant l'apprentissage du travail.
Je suis allé en Namibie avec la FAO pour la pisciculture et je sais que vous avez potentiel.
Mais pour les nouveaux venus dans ce travail, il est préférable de commencer petit avec
systèmes de faible intensité et faible investissement, tels que l'élevage de poissons dans
les étangs, les cages ou des réservoirs, comme cela se fait au Nigeria.

Il est toujours préférable d'investir dans un voyage pour visiter les fermes qui ont réussi et apprendre des erreurs des autres. i
Les systèmes intensifs en eaux recyclés nécessitent une gestion qualifiée 24 heures par jour, et ce n'est pas
pour les nouveaux arrivants dans le secteur. Quelques-uns des meilleurs pisciculteurs du Nigeria ont voyagé en Europe pour visiter des fermes de poissons aux Pays-Bas et les
Royaume-Uni. Maintenant, il y a un certain nombre de fermes piscicoles qui ont réussi à visiter en
Afrique, au Nigeria, au Ghana, en Ouganda, au Kenya, en Zambie, etc Vous pourriez
envisager de visiter certains de ces pisciculteurs et réorienter vos efforts
sur la base des leçons apprises


Everyone,

A number of criteria and conditions are required for developing fish
farming and many have been tried in Africa.  From the years of
experience and many lessons learnt, the old saying holds true, "Keep
it simple", especially while learning the business.

I have been to Namibia with FAO for fish farming and know you have
potential there.

But for new comers to this business, it is best to start small with
systems of low intensity and low investment, such as rearing fish in
ponds, cages or tanks, as done in Nigeria.

It is always best to invest in some travel to visit successful fish
farms and learn from the mistakes of others.  Intensive recirculating
systems require highly trained management 24 hours a day, and are not
for new comers to the industry.  A few of the best best fish farmers
in Nigeria travelled to Europe to visit fish farms in Holland and the
UK.   Now there are a number of successful fish farms to visit in
Africa in Nigeria, Ghana, Uganda, Kenya, Zambia, etc.  You might
consider visiting some of these farmers and redirecting your efforts
based on their lessons learnt.

Good luck with your endeavour.

Jim Miller


On 10/3/12, mirera David <dimirera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hallo Nick,

I concur with your sentiments on the response to Stephanus.

Some times we have made aquaculture interventions complicated and expensive
through well engineered designs that can not bring out any profitability.
Its of good practice that the consultants show what they have done and is
working before being give intensive and highly demanding aquaculture
assignments like those which may end up useless in the long run.

However sometimes investors and farmers get corned in the process of
identifying the right people to work with! So how this could be addressed is
an issue and possibly why SARNISSA is in existence.

Regards

David





Mirera H. O. David
Research Officer
Kenya Marine and Fisheries Research Institute (KMFRI)
P. O. Box 81651-80100
Mombasa-Kenya
office email: dmirera@kmfri.co.ke
Telephone: +254 -020-8021560/1
Fax: +254 - 020-2353226
Alternate contact
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Mobile:+254-722-646270
Email: dimirera@yahoo.com


________________________________
 From: Nick James <nickjames@intekom.co.za>
To: sarnissa-african-aquaculture@lists.stir.ac.uk
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Sarnissa] Request for Technical Support!!



Dear Stephanus

I am intrigued to know the aquaculture credentials
of the "South African Engineering company" that did the design of your
project.
Did they show you a working model of their design that was fully
operational?  If they did not, were they able to give you referral to an
overseas or inter-African example of where their design parameters were
working?

I ask because SA is getting a reputation for
high-tech system designs that simply do not lead to profitably operational
fish
farms.

A 500 tonne/pa. tilapia farm is considerable in
terms of production and infrastructure requirements...BUT it is the way that
it
is done that will make the difference between yet another  white
elephant...and a viable aquaculture unit. We are getting a little tired of
these
"engineer-designed" set-ups designed by people who have never kept a fish
alive in their lives, as they are giving RAS aquaculture in Africa  a bad
name.

regards

Nick

Nicholas P E James
Rivendell Hatchery
PO Box
6146
Grahamstown
6141 South Africa
Cell 082 575 9781

email nickjames@intekom.co.za
WEBSITE www.rivendellhatchery.co.za
----- Original Message -----
Dear William,

Allow me to take this opportunity to
  introduce my selves. I am Benedictus Stephanus from Namibia. We are
battling
  to get an Fresh water Fish farm off the ground at the Naute Dam for the
last
  4years. Of the challenges we have are more of technical support base. Thus
we
  are in need of a technical partner which could take care of the technical

  requirements of the project.
We look forward towards the valuable
  support from the forum at large.
Kindly,

Benedictus
  Stephanus
Executive Chairman
Naute Aqua Fish Farms cc
Mobil: +265 856
  095 352
Email: bstephanus@iway.na
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